The Vince Coakley Radio Program
Friday, January 12th



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Good Friday morning thank god it's Friday. I don't know about you and I'm very much ready for this week to be over. I'm sure many of you feel the same way. For variety of reasons has always if you like join the conversation. In this advantage talk like number 809 to 1110. Cummins since retirement planning text line 7130. Cent and and we began. We are the conversation is gone the last what twelve hours or so maybe more sixteen. Over some alleged comments made by the president yesterday during a meeting. Where there is discussion about immigration. Now we will have somewhat of a panoramic discussion about this and as I mentioned I would love to hear you have to say about this. But to say something at the outset. What are the concerns I've expressed. Even factory in the Republican campaign. This country. Was built on the foundation of character. There's something distinct about the character of the people that helped to form this country. I was just talking with someone about this this morning I believe that has been eroding especially in the past few decades. And I think even many of us who are concerned about the erosion of our culture. We are products of the erosion of our culture. And we're seeing it in front of our faces every single day. And sadly I think many of us have become desensitized to it. Especially when it is on quote our site. I'm very concerned about this. Because one of the things that I ate very much believes during the campaign. Was we need leadership not just to provide some sort of economic direction for the country this country is not about. Its economy the economy is not 100% of the United States of America. There are other facets of our national character that are vital to this country's survival. The stock market is wonderful. Economic growth is wonderful. But of the very heart and soul of this country is rotting. None of those things that I mentioned about money will save us none of them well. We desperately need moral leadership in this country what is moral leadership and is it going around preaching at people Nell. It's the kind of character. That is able to. Engage and relate to every human being even people you do not disagree with. And provide leadership Q. That has been terribly act absent in this country. For decades. I don't know. Really the last time we had this kind of leadership will probably break him. We certainly don't have it now. We didn't have an over under Obama we did not have a vendor George W. Bush. Certainly not under Clinton. And certainly not over bush senior under bush senior. We've lacked this for some time. And what's sad is. You can reach a point we don't even know what looks like. This is where we are. So yesterday. The president raised the question why the US. Is accepting people from blink all countries. When lawmakers suggested bringing back legal protections for immigrants from Haiti El Salvador and African nations as a part of a broader immigration deal. Where are we having all these people from Blanco countries come here. We should bring in more people from places like Norway. Norway's prime minister visited the white house on Wednesday. The truck administration recently decided to end. Temporary protected status for citizens of countries like Haiti in El Salvador who came to the US. To escape natural disasters. Mile. Out of Utah. Who I didn't realize she's actually patient. She called on the president to apologize. For his reported comments criticizing immigrants coming to the US. From these countries. Presence count answer in kind divisive elitist and fly in the face or nation's values. The president must apologize to both the American people the nation's he's so once Utley maligned. And did we have this. Two day. It's a new day. And we have a version. Of events that's very different coming out of the president himself. President Donald Trump is now refuting reports that he called Haiti and African nations blink coal. Countries. The language used by me if the doctor meeting was tough but this was not the language used. It's what he tweeted out this morning what was really tough was the outlandish proposal made a big setback for doc. So this is kind of a setting the stage for our discussion this morning and I've been very eager to hear from you. To what your. Impressions are these Cummins. I'm reminded of one that I want to share from a friend of mine. And yesterday evening. And it's. Actually my reaction when I saw the story and how was breaking over social media. When I saw my friends post ID actually reached out to him to. Try to talk to him. This will really sad is I saw a distinct. Defensiveness. That really shouldn't Peter. Should not be there at all. You're supposed. From police. I don't care what anyone says trumps derogatory comments about Blanco countries Haiti in some African nations as far as. Open door policy immigration is concerned it's totally inappropriate Celso erotic and might affect America's often supported the dictatorship regimes. A said countries throughout history. But he'd need to know what acknowledge our history to prevent them from making such insensitive. Racially charged remarks. That that's smarter tactful though. Or can say is we should all remember this. In November 20/20. By the way this person is not a liberal. Remember that. Not a liberal. Here's my friend Pablo posted yesterday evening. One of the first post. That's brought my attention to these remarks. Fact I came to this country this month 21 years ago I came here at the age of ten. How would you measure predict might merit. I'm proud that I come from labeling coal country. And thus. I'm a blank coal immigrants currently serving in the military. Who's much more American than our draft dodging president. Pretty sad is that. This is the kind of discourse. One way or the other that has now been stimulated. Mr. President I hope you're proud of yourself. Coming up you hear. One perspective on this that I think is most important. That's straight ahead 809 to 1110. Our text line 71307. 90 minutes after 10 o'clock the Vince Coakley radio programs starting off talking about the alleged comments from the president's. Which is another interesting aspect of this. At this point. As I understand it they are. A number of sources who verified these comments were made the president and is now denying these comments were made. And I go back again. To the earlier conversation in the week we were having which was about the state of the president's mental health do you think this helps. I mean seriously folks. For stop making the comments. And then second off denying the comments. Let's go to David in Greenville. Welcome sir. But it slipped talk about the important part for our you do it. They joined well did you hear from you again David. I quick help you to listen wanted to use that and immediate favorite there you got the assurance that you're not well they're relentless Columbia state. Because the number we used to coat you on the 23296. Separate out like or. Lecture you get all of the obstacles and problems Carol. We are still getting that we still get the. Good good good luck but I. Let little love but anyway here well one side went well or well liked well bit less idol is every bit rise. Let's talk about what the president they're prettier like usual. El Salvador. And maybe nobody will ago where nobody's leaving here to go there everybody that there'll be on here. Why should we accepted an American citizen I asked the question why do we want a great quote on low likely well liked that. Who are likely illegal. Illegal. About it right. They. Won't let people like that when we have a chance. Maybe two Chinese Government. In fact people that don't put up to load on you really attacked players. Rule and everything else that were played or all of these illegals. Obviously quite obvious that people like welcome a couple of countries that are more established. We better economic opportunities are gonna come into America and think well it's an incentive. He's absolutely. Right here on. Italy beat tech and people it might be some couple I'd love to be. The follow through it UB US more like. I mean that's what we have to deal with parsley but as far as the overall statement is absolutely right India on. Okay David let's divide this a moment because that on on the subject of illegal immigration being a drain on the system. Absolutely. I A I do not believe I mean we've we've talked about display in the times in this program. That we need to enforce our borders we we are fully agreed on that. Where I have a problem and and this is where communication gets very messy David. You know how how how do you deal with the immigrant who has come to this country who is now received an offense from this president's. Fans. Legitimately or it legitimately. Here is yet another person who as a reason not to listen chew or support this president and his ideas. The big lesson here real. Not only be brought. See David I disagree with you David I I don't want to talk about the city morgue you because I eat. I I'd love you to death let's talk again another time but I'm I'm furious with this. I gotta tell you folks and let me just let me just say this very emphatically. You wanna talk about growing up. Growing up means having empathy for human beings. And if you can't have empathy for human beings number one you did not belong in public office. Never. Never. This man has zero empathy for people. A David David and I normally agree on just about everything but I I can tell you something this. This can teach yen. Of hope warship. Revolving around Donald Trump and the need to defend every stupid asinine thing this man dies. It's poisonous. And it will destroy this country just as much as eight years of Barack Obama and his poise in destroyed this country. It's the same thing folks. Can't you see that why are we defending and decency. I go back to the post that I put out that I share with you just few minutes go from my friend Pablo why in the world. Why in this world. What a man like my friend Pablo feel unwelcome. In this atmosphere and it's not just from Donald Trump it's from Donald Trump supporters. I read the social media posts. If you put on a message that is welcoming to immigrants are you distinctly. Making. The delineation between illegal and legal immigrants. Many of you aren't. And the message that comes across. It's very hostile it's ugly. I'm serious folks I mean I am deeply grieved about this. Deeply grieved. I wanna share a couple of posts here before you go back to more of your calls a new a lot of you have liked to say. There a couple of bit should really grabbed my attention. One from sand. Let me tell you about Sam Sam is different mine he is black and I would call him profoundly conservative in his views and his perspectives. But I think he's seen some of the same things I have over the last eighteen months during the political campaign. And there's an ugly underside. I'm not I'm let me be very clear before I even read this I'm not agreeing with everything my friend Sam says but I agree with the current of what he's communicated. So against one of the ways president trouble make America great again despite calling countries like Katie El Salvador and Africa. Blake whole country's. This is what happens when you vote for the lesser of two evils you still get evil and yes trump claims to be Christian. Many white evangelicals claim he's a Christian and they downplayed the arrogance and white supremacist views. This is why the gospel must be properly preached so that people can have a proper understanding of true christianity looks like. Because the one promoted by many white evangelicals. Is a disgrace to the name of Christ. Now I don't embrace this idea of white supremacy. And I at some point we'll probably have a conversation with my friend Sam I'd love to understand your perspective year. I do think. On things like this in what is been communicated. And the fact that you have so called Christian leader fall Christian leaders falling all over themselves. To suck up to this guy. It is nauseating. But he got to be calling out things like this. Where is Paula white's. Other than counting her money. Yes I said she's a charlatan. She's a false prophet. And it's no wonder she loves hanging out with Donald Trump. And we have this Scott's. Quoting and the statue of liberty which I know. This is not in the constitution and I want to be very clear about that because there's no similar view immediately be defensive and you'll dismiss this. Give me your tired your poor your huddled masses yearning to breathe free. The wretched refuse of your teeming shore send these the homeless tempest tossed to me I lift my lamp. Beside the golden door. By the way. I mentioned my friend Pablo. Who comes from a background with nothing. Who's worked his rear end off serving in the military right now. We don't know. And we had no way of knowing what he would become in this country. I rejoice in knowing this guy. And I'm glad. He was that kept out because of where he came from. But I went in with this in this segment. Mr. President I love you I pray for you I appreciate all the good you've done in the last year but I plead with you to be more careful with your words. Assuming the report about your statements certain emirate countries is true. Surely sir you can do better. And that's from my friend doctor Michael Brown. That. Is the most important thing I share. In the context of this conversation loved your thoughts. Will continue. This conversation 809. To eleven tenor text line 713 years seven. 1036 events cochlear your permit as I expected the it's these text line is just absolutely scrolling away scribbling away. With your comments about this first segment I would share something. And appreciates guy. Who's written two media. During the break on social media sura I love you to death. You just said it's in human to treat people like this or that wells are askew. Last twenty years you didn't lose your job through legal immigration I ended up homeless four times because of it once with my family. So sir we don't care. Not care about another problem and some other country we need to stop and take care of America Scott and I just appealed to you. We can taken care of America. Without. Turning into ass holes. And I say that's. That's what I'm saying. That's my appealed to us. Now I I get concerned about illegal immigration demand I empathize with what you have shared. It's a horrible thing that is and let's address that let's slam the door and illegal immigration let's get this under control. Let's do our jobs situation or economic situation under control but the same time we do not have to. Dehumanize ourselves. In T ourselves of all humanity and virtue. And become ugly people over this. Because that will be self destructive. Gym in Charlotte good morning and welcome. Alone you know me and this is a passionate discussion we're having your fired up. And I. Well there's a couple of things. Are expecting. This at all appreciate your comments came in. Not writing at the beginning of this year. Pretty quick in effort he's speaking in about sending her leadership. The need for. You know moral leadership and I agree completely with. And we don't have and I hope we can get back here all of this particular. It's been. I'm not cheer if the president said what and when I don't think we know that it. That it during the break her are. Going currently aren't normally claim they'll. I own multiple witnesses away. Sitting in multiple people in the room wage right right so there's any on. There's no. Reroute it to be offer four or bad back and Alain Richard that all that would think of the order and rewarding. What are you a lot. This same kind of language and in beer and language now. That the president often in game losing him people are users that don't even call them racists you know. Somehow big is he says you can see it it doesn't. That he's racist which I've never really heard any of those accusations. Until he started well and president. Our home in so I don't know a bit. I don't know that is right to make that leap. Yeah I agree with you this is what's so sad about this Jim. I'm still giving this guy the benefit of the doubt he's not racist and I've defended this guy over and over and over again on this race issue. But it's you this the other thing really ticks me off as a black man. Here I am defending this guy on racial issues. And what is he too he keeps opening up this stupid mouth saying stupid stuff. He's making this difficult for all of us especially is black conservatives come on where's Allen west. Wary easy where's David Clark went off today to come out. And say Mr. President if you want to reach out to black people in this country you've got to control your language. Doesn't make sense Jim. It does I agree with you. I would say. You know as. Donald Trump's the celebrity in note before he went into politics you. I was concerned because there was so you can see the problem in the primary areas certainly in the general election. In a win in south. And arc. Two different occasions Jesse Jackson. Gave Donald Trump the celebrity and award. Work business enterprise. Equally poor or our own. The war in and go. He's got cooler. In. I don't know if he can do it is I don't think these are great models. And it's comet but you delete this. I agree with addicts. To. Should be clear. With his language is certainly he says it's not it's kind of. Appreciated Jim can I just add here this when these important. And that's it and I'm speaking of myself here. You know there's there's got to be a level of self awareness we you recognized in these areas were I am just not good at all I'm week. Aunts. And I can tell you a number of areas. Where I'm addressing these kinds of things right now and I've got into you know people I consider consider elders and said hey here's an area where I'm struggling. Would you would your input in this area would you pray for me about this particular area. We're talking about talking about being perfect because I often hear this criticism what do you expect everybody to be perfect no. My hope is that people are aspiring to virtue that's all. And they're gonna step away and say you know what me and I really screwed that up I'm sorry. I wanna do a better job in this area. So far I don't see your here that's what concerns me. Run out of Taylor's good morning and welcome. Not that they were saying and leave I would not for a the fact that they've been disparaging remarks. Toward anybody individual. State nation doesn't make any difference. It violate the general principles does its demand which has to do it that cannot murder will you do not detract from anybody's life and anyway. And the and it can also be part of the general prison Leah command there but that's. Is robbing the integrity from the people. When he doesn't understand what most Americans do not understand. That this country got to a position that it in according to divine probably. Yeah not brought it about easily adopt and you can take it down anytime he wants. I'm like talking about how we had. Great story that didn't stop there were still the greatest nation on the pay your. First book on my mind. You have no clue who rules and never say neither is now. There is no way that they should have been may. Not right now because that says what he did something similar with Puerto Rico. That would be intimating that he gave when he spoke about Puerto Rico has been helping inferior. What he doesn't understand it what he may understand that he has. And believe don't know what is right is when he is greater Don and he had no more Brett it will lineup that god took his life and he will be accountable. Anyone have no excuse. And he will suffer under some of the most excruciating pain of an infinite multitude where eternity in. They'll fire which include the whole lot of different things. I certainly hope not rod and I appreciate your call how to Taylor's this morning. Religious dovetails on what what he's just communicated as I have this very conversation this morning in an interview. Civil was interviewed me about the subject you know why we are. As we are here in the United States of America I'm thankful for every man every woman who contributed to our freedom but I'll tell you what. Member of that song what does it say in the sun. America America god shed his grace on the that's why we have what we have it is God's grace. And the moment we start boasting and think we did it without our hands or we sustain it with our hands alone. We are profoundly deceived and yes. We risk losing it. That's my concern for the future. More of your calls straight ahead at 49 Vince Coakley radio program and the phone lines jammed up right now we're gonna get your calls very quickly here. I edit social media message infect it and share this. Dave rates insists they walk the walk with your solution rather than watch the match beat Lipton house burn down with edge of self destruction wake up. And archer. What specifically used answered I agree with that we are at the edge of self destruction. You're the solution is first and foremost. It's just returning to the lord. That's really what idiots. Ends as much as I ate one the economy to improve and things like that that's great. But if morally spiritually we continue on the path that we are on it is a indeed a path of self destruction. In simply fixing Wall Street and main street economically alone will not fix this. Threat to Bob and Albemarle good morning. Paper and so our rights here. Thank and that's just my opinion everybody should have slowed down and look at what was set up well by not sending a whole people. He had a whole country you get to remember. As a businessman. And the country where the people like it or not and really. All American interest whether gold mining. Exxon situations. He has dealt in the business sense I really believe he will come out later site. Basically this had nothing to do with the people in the countries that it would. He stopped on the way up a moment Bob. Is that what he said. For what I hear from the news reports it didn't say. The hateful people he says the people from the eight hole. See but here's here's the point I'm making Bob. One of the things I learned about in communication. And it's certainly reinforced on this broadcast every single day. Every single day. People here what I do not say. And when you talk about somebody's country. You know. They're not hearing you clarify all I'm talking about you know these tin foil dictators are these idiots. They hear that you r.s you're basically slamming. And maligning my country where I came from you or you're blowing up my heritage and when you talk about our continent and it's important clarify it's not a country. A continent like Africa. And you're talking about a whole bunch of countries and you're talking about. But black Americans who come from that continent and you're basically saying the whole thing it's a crap show. That. At least I totally agree with the events but in trot I mean we get a bite out trot. Well no it's not our responsibility he's a leader he needs to figure out how to think like we think. And he needs to figure out how to identify with the people he claims to be leading that's the point that's what good leadership does. Why it is Laporte dance but what I'm trying to and the amount that have been troubling that the bank site I can't say people should slowdown in. Not odd to send him home or criticize him but Travis will arms. Is not the best communicate her. Eight probably in the court 20% of communicators other met. I liked his whole rationale was not looking and he should have but he was not looking at the people he was looking at the daily that the concrete and the leaders. Utmost. I don't doubt that I don't up that are all Bob and I've I appreciate your perspective thanks for your call and providing some perspective on what he was probably saying on based on his dealings by the way under oath I mentioned I've been to 83 times. First time was three weeks after the earthquake and you wanna see something else this. This is another thing that really frosts me about the whole situation but of all the money that's been raised for Haiti. Hands you know that. The money that's been raised for Haiti is enough to lift that country to at least second world status. And it didn't happen. You wanna say something else. Let's talk about the United States' involvement in Haiti. And how we have screwed that country over the years and there's a rich history there at some point we should talk about this. Howell much of what we've experienced in our freedom is a direct result. Of patients. And what they did hundreds of years ago. You don't know that do you. It would give your healthy respect for that country even if you were disgusted by which your watching now which I am too. I'm profoundly disgusted by what IC. But I'm more disgusted to be honest with you with the United States of America and that Jack gases that have led this country and participated. In the UN crushing of this country let me give me an example. It was Bill Clinton won the people raising money for Haiti. Who. Acknowledged and apologized to Haiti do what they did. You know we're Haiti used to get most of their rights. They grew it. You don't Wear the get most of their rice now the United States of America because the world community driven by none other than the United Nations told them. Oh you should be doing something else. So guess where they get most of their rice from. The United States there are no longer self sufficient. Why because of the country no because the United States was complicit in screwing that country. We've bear responsibility. For that country being what it is now. Do we want to take that do we want acknowledged that to be honest. What do we just want to throw stones and insult them. Tim you get about 45 seconds year. Out here. They I hear your opinion. Is I'm glad we've got a president now actually. Our country is not a big hassle. It is concerned. Or about what's coming into our house what type that people are coming to our house ought to wait to knock to doors are very young or what was. Or these other country. OK I greet him I get your point we've talked about this over and over nobody disagrees that here's my question for you. Is it necessary to insult their country and assume that every person from those countries is unworthy of coming to America. Well I would say if you're gonna Communist Party shall your work shall we you're going to be except this car you can help. Country. Okay and everybody needs to prove that even if they come from Norway. Ants. Are. Already. So you think let me just ask you Tim you assume you're gonna get a better quality person from Norway than Haiti is that an assumption for you. Oh that's accurate to say there's more like I'm back current sort of backers. Are you didn't answer my questions here. This is really scary folks. Our number two of faith focus Friday straight ahead.